tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post4169478748531896245..comments2023-10-30T14:03:37.394+00:00Comments on Lindylooz Muze: Is Nick Clegg a Lib Dem?Linda Jackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05155438246679688058noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-23954017274532374472011-03-29T10:39:59.983+01:002011-03-29T10:39:59.983+01:00To be honest (!) I think it's pretty silly to ...To be honest (!) I think it's pretty silly to be questioning our MPs about "whether they are Liberal Democrats" - the vast majority of them would have had a much easier life by joining one of the other parties. And yet they didn't. Even we are a broad church as a party - just like the other big two. <br /><br />By all means question their judgement, their decisions etc, but in my opinion, to ask "if Nick Clegg is a Lib Dem" is about at the same level as those (stupid) people who say "you should be in Labour".Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14726791152439067293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-30185597241146161032011-03-28T15:20:34.777+01:002011-03-28T15:20:34.777+01:00There's is something unpleasantly McCarthyite ...There's is something unpleasantly McCarthyite about people constantly questioning whether or not other Lib Dems are Lib Dems, based in part on unsubstantiated anecdotage about why different individuals first joined the party. I don't accuse critics of the leadership of not being proper Lib Dems because they disagree with the Lib Dem leadership. Let's accept that everyone in the party is a loyal Liberal Democrat, including those government ministers who are fighting so hard for our party's values every day. I am pleased that Messrs Cameron and Clegg are managing the Coalition so well that they appear to be united in promoting the Coalition Government's agenda.Matthew Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894528321388582099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-52762112199888661682011-03-28T14:06:59.948+01:002011-03-28T14:06:59.948+01:00Well after 2000 I decided Labour was not my party ...Well after 2000 I decided Labour was not my party and I went to a meeting of the Lib Dem's I was asked to attend to speak about disability, I'm severely disabled with Paraplegia a lesion of the spine, but I was turned down for benefits after the new WCA medical they said that I was fit to work.<br /><br />I spoke at the meeting for a few minutes and it was decided it was obvious I was disabled but they felt that something had to be done about welfare and Labour new medicals.<br /><br />This week I hear the Tories labour the Liberal have all agreed to the welfare reforms. not to sure where I will go now.<br /><br />I appealed the decision on the WCA and won my appeal with two minutes of going.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186557603493331701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-31644303166666173812011-03-28T00:57:18.305+01:002011-03-28T00:57:18.305+01:00"if we keep doing this....!" What, appe..."if we keep doing this....!" What, appearing together and selling coalition policy to an audience it will probably then look strange having a go at each other in a leaders' debate. I think that's what we meant.<br /><br />He had plenty to say against Tory policy but I will judge him on the NHS issue because he says he has listened and that there will be no privatisation (further privatisation).JohnMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12880436007058091917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-24099144892243697762011-03-27T22:31:04.353+01:002011-03-27T22:31:04.353+01:00This is the wrong question to ask, surely? It'...This is the wrong question to ask, surely? It's not is Clegg a Lib Dem, that's obvious to anyone that's met him (and I abstained in the leadership election as I thought either would be good and stand by that choice).<br /><br />The question is surely is David Cameron a <i>Tory</i>? <br /><br />I've been saying for ages that he's a Whig and his opinions are clearly from the National Liberal wing of the Conservative Party.<br /><br />So that a liberal conservative mostly agrees, personally, with a centrist Lib Dem shouldn't really surprise anyone.<br /><br />That one of his greatest cheerleaders during the leadership campaign just didn't notice that Clegg was obviously far more likely to work with Cameron and would obviously get on with him is indicative as well.MatGBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02821264556751176639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-47956060860372597202011-03-27T19:28:05.929+01:002011-03-27T19:28:05.929+01:00Does this mean that Nick has given up on the mansi...Does this mean that Nick has given up on the mansion tax ? This was a major policy for us at the election. Nick has never come out as a libertarian. In fact he has studiously avoided using the word. <br />Ed Joyceedjoycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09239337637404400345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-45507087720912774852011-03-26T09:58:27.576+00:002011-03-26T09:58:27.576+00:00There's quite a few "honestly"'s...There's quite a few "honestly"'s going around here...<br /><br />Honestly Linda, I think you had some kind of Cleggasm early on and are slowly recovering.<br /><br />He's not a Lib Dem, he never really claimed to be like us; he's something else (libertarian?). He was always pretty honest about it too, and the party accepted it.<br /><br />I agree mainly with Andrew - Clegg wouldn't be my choice of leader, and I wouldn't choose a coalition with the Tories, however, I think we have good cause to worry. After the next General Election there's the potential for a parliament with very small LD representation, and the dinosaurs will rule the earth once again! I think Labour and Tories are likely to hold off anything too radical until there's no viable opposition, only each other.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07453628075710779911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-73532162965040480482011-03-25T14:06:07.452+00:002011-03-25T14:06:07.452+00:00I suspect Linda is getting ready to jump ship ove ...I suspect Linda is getting ready to jump ship ove rthe Labour. this is all getting ready for the 'it's not me who has changed'line. <br /><br />If I was a Tory i would be worried that cameron agrees with Clegg on so much.Simon McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13260109849189903819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-21056690091499093322011-03-25T13:23:52.601+00:002011-03-25T13:23:52.601+00:00More to the point Linda - is Liam Byrne a liberal?...More to the point Linda - is Liam Byrne a liberal?<br /><br />He's the man you've run off to make Labour policy with despite him being a typical Labour reactionary, authoritarian, knee jerk machine politician.<br /><br />I know who I'd prefer dealing with.<br /><br />http://livingonwords.blogspot.com/2011/02/some-questions-for-linda-jack-and.htmlDan Falchikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10202541499332901648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-5682546042011432512011-03-25T13:08:30.436+00:002011-03-25T13:08:30.436+00:00I honestly don't see it that way. Clegg is cer...I honestly don't see it that way. Clegg is certainly on the right of the party, but we're a broad church - if two thirds of the party think of themselves as on the left, that means a whole third of the party *doesn't*.<br />I understand your worry, but I think it's unnecessary. I've often made such jokes myself, and it's always been when I've found a little common ground with someone with whom I generally have deep disagreements. The joke wouldn't be funny if they really did agree all that much.<br />Clegg wouldn't be my choice of leader, and the Tories wouldn't be my choice of coalition partner, but I don't think we have too much reason to worry...Andrew Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412263807838661843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22057922.post-62357226630021384782011-03-25T13:06:58.059+00:002011-03-25T13:06:58.059+00:00I really think you are reading too much into a jok...I really think you are reading too much into a joke.<br /><br />"If he honestly cannot think of any differences with Cameron..."<br /><br />Have you lost your mind Linda? Of course he can think of differences. It is unbelievable that the Linda who physically melted in the presence of Nick Clegg when he was running for leader has now gone from one extreme to the other. Surely you have seen enough of Nick in action to know that starting a sentence with "If he honestly cannot think of any differences with Cameron" really is daft, have you not?<br /><br />Blimey!Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.com